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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1309</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 11:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concentration camps? That description somewhat understates what they really were, the horror and madness which was so commonplace made them a living hell. 
My nightmares continue to this day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concentration camps? That description somewhat understates what they really were, the horror and madness which was so commonplace made them a living hell.<br />
My nightmares continue to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: bob90805Robert Pike</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1214</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Earth is flat and there were no Concentration Camps.  Anyone believing this would make a good NAZI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Earth is flat and there were no Concentration Camps.  Anyone believing this would make a good NAZI.</p>
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		<title>By: bob90805Robert Pike</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1213</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also by Scientology beliefs being connected to a source of suppression makes one a potential trouble source or PTS for short.  The subject of scientology is good but as practised in the Corporate Church evil, and a betrail after trust.  David Micsavige the head of this church should be behind bars.  He may have actually murdered L. Ron Hubbard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also by Scientology beliefs being connected to a source of suppression makes one a potential trouble source or PTS for short.  The subject of scientology is good but as practised in the Corporate Church evil, and a betrail after trust.  David Micsavige the head of this church should be behind bars.  He may have actually murdered L. Ron Hubbard.</p>
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		<title>By: ka</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1212</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About not looking and denial: I think it has also to do with &quot;cognitive dissonance&quot; and that the communication of the members is manipulated and compartmented - one never has the means to see the whole picture when being in the cult; only when getting more info one can sort it out in once mind.
One has also to overcome the thought stopping and mind control to connect the dots and to admit to oneself &quot;having been wrong&quot; and having been conned (for years ...) and having made major wrong decisions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About not looking and denial: I think it has also to do with &#8220;cognitive dissonance&#8221; and that the communication of the members is manipulated and compartmented &#8211; one never has the means to see the whole picture when being in the cult; only when getting more info one can sort it out in once mind.<br />
One has also to overcome the thought stopping and mind control to connect the dots and to admit to oneself &#8220;having been wrong&#8221; and having been conned (for years &#8230;) and having made major wrong decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: My Tom Cruise audition &#124; Anette Iren JohansenAnette Iren Johansen</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My Tom Cruise audition &#124; Anette Iren JohansenAnette Iren Johansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deElizabethan</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1186</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I did services I did not look at what was really happening behind the scenes. Only when I look back can I see the possibilities of it. 
When the leader said the org was open and running in Israel ,  I was impressed and so were the thousand others there. A year later found out that it had not been and still wasn&#039;t and that was confirmed. So until ones finds out the truth it seems everything is fine. Not easy for member within to find out a truth, until they start looking outside of the bubble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I did services I did not look at what was really happening behind the scenes. Only when I look back can I see the possibilities of it.<br />
When the leader said the org was open and running in Israel ,  I was impressed and so were the thousand others there. A year later found out that it had not been and still wasn&#8217;t and that was confirmed. So until ones finds out the truth it seems everything is fine. Not easy for member within to find out a truth, until they start looking outside of the bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Tank</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1185</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thetans exist only in the minds of those who believe in them.

I, on the other hand am an evolved being, who deals solely with the source of life, which exists in all of our hearts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thetans exist only in the minds of those who believe in them.</p>
<p>I, on the other hand am an evolved being, who deals solely with the source of life, which exists in all of our hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1184</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there are some major factors that work to produce disbelief and denial in Scientologists.  They build on factors that already exist in society.  

The first is a cynicism about human nature, especially as found in group dynamics and especially in elitist or closed groups.  This cynicism manifests as an immediate assumption of greed as a main and common underlying motive for all behavior, especially when there is any money being charged in any way that can be seen to be unfair or exorbitant.  

The second is an assumption that a victim must be somewhat complicit to be a victim.  This is a common attitude in wife battering and rape scenarios -- she must be stupid, she must be willing in some way, she must really mean yes when she says no, she must have done something to have such bad karma, etc.  This is heavily compounded in Scientology by the way truth is described as being handled at various tone level bands.  Apathy is the biggest liar, enthusiastic people don&#039;t lie at all.  People who are crying are always prone to wild exaggeration.  Any response that is less than bored is treated as false testimony.

The third is the remarkable and constant onslaught of lies, exaggerations and propaganda in mainstream media that has been going on for at least a century.  Its hard to know what to believe, and worse yet in this day and age of video and audio spoofing.  This is especially true of elitist organizations, political organizations, Churches that have hidden atrocities, and so on.  It is very difficult to believe cries of vicious behavior in your own organization even when it is right in front of you.  In my case, NO SUCH BEHAVIOR EVER HAPPENED where I did my Scientology services, day in and day out for YEARS.  This was not denial, this was observation.  What it took to shift that was reviewing numerous reports, not just one or two and seeing the videos on Marty Rathbun&#039;s blog showing the behavior.  It also took watching Tommy Davis POINT BLANK lie on national television.  Unbelievable but true.  Also, the concept of low toned people lie comes into play when one visits one of the Church created websites that are vitriolic pits of sensationalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some major factors that work to produce disbelief and denial in Scientologists.  They build on factors that already exist in society.  </p>
<p>The first is a cynicism about human nature, especially as found in group dynamics and especially in elitist or closed groups.  This cynicism manifests as an immediate assumption of greed as a main and common underlying motive for all behavior, especially when there is any money being charged in any way that can be seen to be unfair or exorbitant.  </p>
<p>The second is an assumption that a victim must be somewhat complicit to be a victim.  This is a common attitude in wife battering and rape scenarios &#8212; she must be stupid, she must be willing in some way, she must really mean yes when she says no, she must have done something to have such bad karma, etc.  This is heavily compounded in Scientology by the way truth is described as being handled at various tone level bands.  Apathy is the biggest liar, enthusiastic people don&#8217;t lie at all.  People who are crying are always prone to wild exaggeration.  Any response that is less than bored is treated as false testimony.</p>
<p>The third is the remarkable and constant onslaught of lies, exaggerations and propaganda in mainstream media that has been going on for at least a century.  Its hard to know what to believe, and worse yet in this day and age of video and audio spoofing.  This is especially true of elitist organizations, political organizations, Churches that have hidden atrocities, and so on.  It is very difficult to believe cries of vicious behavior in your own organization even when it is right in front of you.  In my case, NO SUCH BEHAVIOR EVER HAPPENED where I did my Scientology services, day in and day out for YEARS.  This was not denial, this was observation.  What it took to shift that was reviewing numerous reports, not just one or two and seeing the videos on Marty Rathbun&#8217;s blog showing the behavior.  It also took watching Tommy Davis POINT BLANK lie on national television.  Unbelievable but true.  Also, the concept of low toned people lie comes into play when one visits one of the Church created websites that are vitriolic pits of sensationalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Anette Iren Johansen</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anette Iren Johansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 13:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point, and welcome! I believe it&#039;s important to examine all sides before promoting any subject heavily. There are pros and cons in everything. Scientology is promoted to be all perfect. Which is a very basic lie. Nothing can be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, and welcome! I believe it&#8217;s important to examine all sides before promoting any subject heavily. There are pros and cons in everything. Scientology is promoted to be all perfect. Which is a very basic lie. Nothing can be.</p>
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		<title>By: theclearakasurvivor</title>
		<link>http://anetteiren.com/scientology-is-perfect/#comment-1181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theclearakasurvivor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All these ex-scientologists complaining about being victims - I&#039;m glad to see someone else say that they were also accomplices spreading this destructive mind-bending ideology.

In fact most ex sea-org members are proud of their accomplishments whilst inside Scientology.  You know an apology would be more appropriate.

The true &quot;victims&quot; of the cult are those who have been affected by it but did nothing to promote it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these ex-scientologists complaining about being victims &#8211; I&#8217;m glad to see someone else say that they were also accomplices spreading this destructive mind-bending ideology.</p>
<p>In fact most ex sea-org members are proud of their accomplishments whilst inside Scientology.  You know an apology would be more appropriate.</p>
<p>The true &#8220;victims&#8221; of the cult are those who have been affected by it but did nothing to promote it.</p>
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