Comments on: PTSD: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder – and Ways of healing

By: suzanne o'meara

suzanne o'meara — Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:41:59 +0000

am wondering about info specific to heal the damages – if severe physical damage resulted from psychic abuses & need to re-plenish restore a lot of centimeters of body tissue -is there an open healing way ? or -must one continue with the PTSD & hope for result ? i just wish there was an open place specific for faster physical healing -we spend so much time on the emotional side & many therapists – but when need more help – if several centimeters have been cut off you by a psychic blade punk ???

By: Anette Iren Johansen

Anette Iren Johansen — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:49:11 +0000

I have ordered the PTSD Workbook today. Looking forward to read it.

By: Daniel Victor

Daniel Victor — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:28:40 +0000

Sorry Anette, when I wrote this I had not read your previous posts yet, talking about the suppressive person you had a relationship with. Therefore the problems you had after leaving did not only derive from leaving the Church. I had neglected the other part.

By: Daniel Victor

Daniel Victor — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:25:35 +0000

Sorry, I had not been clear: I was not referring to help for people suffering from PTSD symptoms.

I was aiming at Ex-Scientologists with their specific problems.

-> I don not imagine a center in a building but a de-centralized service center (on a cloud) with online and offline services

-> The center would specialize on Scientologists (later possibly also other cults).
(Almost) all advisors / coaches / supporters are ex-Church members / staff who know from their own experiences how it feels leaving, building up a new life in the WOG world, while confronting bit by bit that they had been on the wrong track for years, brainwashed and betrayed by the Church system controlled by dear leader DM.
Such ‘experts’ could offer help as they like. e.g.
- 2-way-com via email or telephone/skype or personal at certain days and hours or
-contributing to information on the website or
- providing practical / legal advice or
- finding more coaches or
- finding donators or
- doing PR work, etc.

This would help people effected who need to look out for different kind of help themselves. Like Anette described.

Anette and many many others with a similar story do know much better than I do how such center should work so that it serves those in trouble best.

I believe that actively working to help others distracts from starring at one’s own problems. At the same time one confronts one’s own story and situation and has cognitions.
Therefore I believe that it is medicine.

(My personal activity to start a world-wide project to dissolve the CoS feels like medicine. The Church has taken me for a ride for 10 years in a Chaplain’s Court cycle. If I turned away now, not doing anything against injustice, I’d probably get cancer soon.)

A second, separate (but connected) center, also providing specific information and offering 2-way-comm, could aim at assisting staff and members to get out.

By: dragos72

dragos72 — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:45:04 +0000

hahahahaha!!! Nevery thougt about this, but you’re right. Being honest will never trap you in a netfish of lies. PS. I was forced to lie in Norway about rakfisk. Never liked it but was totally impolite to say this truth in Valdres And exactly like you say, this kind of innocent lie always made me to be careful what I say about that disguisting (and expensive! fish.

By: Anette Iren Johansen

Anette Iren Johansen — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:38:45 +0000

I’m a straight shooter too. Radical honesty is great!

You know, by being direct and honest I don’t have to “remember” to whom did I say that or to whom did I say this – no need keeping notes. Being straight frees my mind.

By: Anette Iren Johansen

Anette Iren Johansen — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:34:52 +0000

Good points, Dragos. People do feel ashamed and embarrassed.

I would love to contribute in such a center. After leaving hell, I also want to be active in Amnesty to prevent cult abuse, and raise cult awareness in general by blogging, giving lectures, etc. Let’s see what will happen.

By: Anette Iren Johansen

Anette Iren Johansen — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:31:18 +0000

The best resources of help and recovery are ex-members, ex-victims, survivors, etc. Those who have traveled the same road. They know what you are going through. The real battle often starts after leaving.

By: dragos72

dragos72 — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:01:12 +0000

I have to thank you for understading me, Anette. Usually I put “hidden” questions, without any bad intention. It’s just me, I always like to see the truth straight as it is

By: dragos72

dragos72 — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:57:52 +0000

Victor, your idea make sense, but I think this can be fulfilled in a sort of NGO or something…I don’t know…Let’s say a clinic, a center of decompression as you say, but how many people are in need after leaving a cult? Not so many. If it’s about veterans, usually the Army have such specific clinics. If it’s about domestic violence, rapes or other abuses, I think it can be done as a center of ALL kind of PTSD situations (cults victims included). A center only related with cults victims can be easily avoided for people in need, by many reasons (shame, fear of retaliation, indecision, etc).